This is what democracy looks like

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In a quest to make sense of the political environment in the United States in 2017, lawyer and ACLU executive director Anthony D. Romero turned to a surprising place — a 14th-century fresco by Italian Renaissance master Ambrogio Lorenzetti. What could a 700-year-old painting possibly teach us about life today? Turns out, a lot. Romero explains all in a talk that's as striking as the painting itself.


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said Saïd Amin (@said) Pinned comment
Here's the ACLU statement re: free speech rights that Mr. Romero referenced at the 12 minute mark. While unpopular among many liberals, it's a good reminder/lesson of what protecting civil liberties really means:

April 26, 2017
NEW YORK — Following news that Ann Coulter cancelled her appearance at the University of California, Berkeley, American Civil Liberties Union National Legal Director David Cole had this reaction:

“The unacceptable threats of violence that have led to the ‘hecklers’ veto’ of Ann Coulter’s speech at Berkeley are inconsistent with free speech principles that protect us all from government overreach. Hateful speech has consequences, particularly for people of color, LGBTQ people, immigrants, and others who have been historically marginalized. But if the government gets to decide which speech counts as hate speech, the powers that be may later feel free to censor any speech they don’t like.

“For the future of our democracy, we must protect bigoted speech from government censorship. On college campuses, that means that the best way to combat hateful speech is through counter-speech, vigorous and creative protest, and debate, not threats of violence or censorship.”
An informative article here about the First Amendment/Hate Speech.
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tehranosaurusrex Behrouz Bahmani (@tehranosaurusrex) replied to Saïd Amin (@said) Pinned comment
Good point.

I feel that Coulter's speech was not Free Speech. She was "Selling" her speech to the conservative politics campus student club in return for her getting the necessary publicity she needs to sell her hate-filled book that has stagnated. The campus student club was trying to raise money by purposely inviting controversial speakers like Coulter and Milo Yiannopoulos before her. This was merely a marketing advertising tactic. Not Free Speech.

The "guests" invited were provocateurs hawking their books. Desperately hoping to get sales going with a glorious fire filled cop car trashed bloody-nosed liberal riot, distorted as mayhem, on Fox news.
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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) replied to Behrouz Bahmani (@tehranosaurusrex) Pinned comment
Selling books ? making money form conservatives ?
commercializing democracy ?
No my dear. That is your interpretation.
Ann Coutler's speech at U.C Berkeley should NOT be cancelled. She had right to talk as much as pro LBGT people had right to protest.
I am sure if the speech was NOT in U.C Berkeley campus, it wouldn't be cancelled.
U.C Berkeley is a suburb of San Francisco which is a capital of gay and lesbians. That was a geography.
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tehranosaurusrex Behrouz Bahmani (@tehranosaurusrex) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
Yes. That was my interpretation. But don't get me wrong. In my opinion if Coulter wants to speak she should be allowed to. But if she wants to present her book she should pay. As we all know Speech may be free but good advertising the kind with street fighting costs money! Coulter was simply trying to get it for free under the guise of free speech.
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ChamoshChamoshvnd ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
Ann Coulter has as much appeal amongst Americans, as terrorist monarchists have appeal amongst Iranian: close to zero & decreasing.
Demographically speaking it comes to close to one hundredth of one percent.
But even most reactionary individuals also have a right to Free Speech, any other approach in limiting them will have (and has had) the opposite effect.
Berkeley was an epicenter of American counter culture and progressive arts & politics; reducing such complex, multifaceted history to a mere sexual orientation demonstrates once more what sort of a pedestrian 'mind' we're dealing with.
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tehranosaurusrex Behrouz Bahmani (@tehranosaurusrex) replied to ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) Pinned comment
Berkeley is not the same as the Republican club hosting Coulter. Coulter was not invited by the University. She was invited by a devious club, trying to stir up controversy in order to pack their event with paying attendees.

My point in all of this is using the false cry of freedom of speech is not fair when you are merely trying to manipulate that right, in order to sell books or tickets to boost your club budget on a campus that is WELL KNOWN for liberal non-right-wing traditions.

Coulter was trying to sell books and hoped for a riot to do that. The Right wing political club, wanted to sell out the event in order to make money for their club.

Each has a right to do that. My argument is that they cannot do that under the banner of Freedom of Speech, and MORE importantly, they cannot do it For FREE.
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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) replied to Saïd Amin (@said) Pinned comment
Thanks for the video Mr. Amin, very informative, especially showing democracy in form of art.
I would like to take an opportunity and discuss this matter in broader aspect. "Hate speech" toward certain group of people should be restricted.
More the less, we are witnessing Hateful comments toward certain group of people on Iranian sites on daily basis. Those kind of hateful comments are also contradict with the principle of democracy.
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