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Ash Ash (@Ash) Pinned comment
The Germans want to keep Iran a dumping ground for Afghan refugees in order to decrease the pressure on Germany, given the refugee crisis in Europe. Not good for Iran, if we consider the poverty in the country many Iranians are suffering from in addition to the threat of terrorism posed by Sunnis. It's better to take the women and children but prevent men from entering, to minimize trouble.
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AhmadKasravy AhmadKasravy (@AhmadKasravy) replied to Ash (@Ash) Pinned comment
It still sounds a bit TOO nationalist, which in and of it self is a biig problem and obstacle, definitely not an asset, rather to be treated as a liability.
Could be considered as a limitation to overcome,; in Hegelian terms an "AufGehoben." to overcome, to supersede.
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Ash Ash (@Ash) replied to AhmadKasravy (@AhmadKasravy) Pinned comment
What's a problem is people putting the interests of foreigners ahead of national interests out of some misguided moral pretensions. Nothing is wrong with a "nation first" approach to issues. Iran cannot afford to feed and shelter foreigners when there are many Iranians living bellow poverty line, sleeping with empty stomachs in abandoned grave holes. If Westerners think they can make Iran pay for the ruin of Afghanistan by Western armies, then they need to think again.
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AhmadKasravy AhmadKasravy (@AhmadKasravy) replied to Ash (@Ash) Pinned comment
The only difference between us and Afghans is that we have Oil, they don't. Commonalities in language, religion, anthropology,...are too numerous to cite in here. Trump's "nation face" catastrophe should have been a wake up call, but apparently not for some.
Iran is already host to the largest refugee communities in Middle East, this ought to be recognized, and compensated for by Western and Eastern nations.
Racism towards Afghans in Iran is very similar to Trump's utilization of racist attacks on Mexican immigrants and Muslims. Two weeks ago in Portland two men were killed on a train defending girls from racist rants. Attacker cut their throats with his knife.
"Nation first" was probably a big motivator for the murderer.
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Ash Ash (@Ash) replied to AhmadKasravy (@AhmadKasravy) Pinned comment
Dismissing the naturally valid "nation first" approach just because it is being abused by an American buffoon and his supporters sounds very American-centric and anti-national.

Trump is a charlatan who exploited the current trends to seize power. One of the ways he did so was by encouraging the exposure of bottled up hatred in the criminally racist and hateful American society. This is an issue entirely different from Iran and the challenges Iranians today are facing. Putting the national interests of the Iranian people ahead of Afghans and other foreigners does not mean that Afghans should be hated and have their throats cut by racist Iranian thugs. Iranians are not Americans; they have a different culture, society, and mentality, and they operate in a different context facing different challenges. Attempts at making shallow and meaningless parallels between Iran and America should be avoided.
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AhmadKasravy AhmadKasravy (@AhmadKasravy) replied to Ash (@Ash) Pinned comment
There's hardly anything natural or valid about origins and formations of nations, nation-states, or the resultant 'Nationalism' (a 'local' product of Western Europe from a few hundred years ago while it was going through their Nation-State formation), let alone an ill defined 'approach' of nation first.
In dealing with nations and nationalism there is a coupling of imposing Structures and determining Contingencies, interacting in an Aleatory itinerary.
While Trump and his milieu project an America-centric image they're also very much national, almost in every way, as well.
Not sure how you come up with "anti-national"!
In a globalized world it is always in Iran's best interest to uphold all international conventions, Refugees Rights and such. And please pay some attention to all the lethal, extremely violent, racist, prejudiced, discriminatory treatment Afghans and their defenseless children have experienced so far.
Iran has been hosting one of the largest refugee communities for decades now, and has never been fairly compensated for it, this issue ought to be corrected. The more crucial issue remains the systematic corruption in government which will most probably embezzle any refugee aid.


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Ash Ash (@Ash) replied to AhmadKasravy (@AhmadKasravy) Pinned comment
Iran actually has a longer tradition of nationalism than Europe, going back to the Sassanian period with the formation of the ethno-religious state called "Empire of the Iranians" or in other words, the political entity of what the Sassanians called "Iranshahr" in which the people were considered to be citizens. Nationalism in Iran is certainly not an artificial import from the West.

Sure, we live in a globalized world where it is in the interests of the Iranians to fit in. But the problem is that international conventions do not serve some of these interests. Take for example the so-called refugee rights, which is like saying random strangers have the right to sleep in our homes and share our resources without the consent of the home owners. Needless to say, this is unacceptable. You were right to mention regime corruption and anti-Afghan racism in Iran, but these are issues that make letting refugees into the country more problematic.
Additionally, consider Iran upholding the NPT and bowing to the hypocrisy and monopolization of nuclear military power by some hostile countries. In this particular case, I think Iranians should look at India for inspiration. More importantly, there is no authority in the world higher than the sovereign national will of the Iranian people. Upholding "international law" means kowtowing to the gang of victors in the second world war and trampling national will underfoot.
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