America is Still an Arcadia for Immigrants

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For the first time at my health club, I noticed a couple of Muslim women in full Hijab taking self-defense class, something I thought unprecedented. Then it dawned on me that demand for such classes by minorities must have increased following the election of Trump and his profusion of anti-Muslim rhetoric and now the ban on immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries country. Minorities, Muslims in particular, must fear that they might be the target of harassment and bigotry, a very legitimate concern on their part. However, I want to assure them that even though it is a good idea to be prepared, such a fear may be premature.

Despite recent anti-immigrant rancorous rhetoric by president Trump, America is still a tolerant Arcadia for minorities. Most people in America cherish diversity and are open-minded about minorities, including Muslims, just as long as minorities try honestly to assimilate into the pop culture of this nation, do not undermine the dominant lifestyle of the people, do not demand special treatment, and more importantly, do not expect others to tolerate them while they are intolerant of others.

Kudos to American people who did the right thing by standing up massively in support of Muslim immigrates following President Trump travel ban. Give them some credit for its graceful restraint. Imagine what would have happened if a Non-Muslim man attacked innocent people in an Islamic country with his car and then stabbed them with a knife? Do you know what kind of retaliatory treatment he and his family would expect from Muslim mobs? I don’t think this kind of mob mentality exists in the U.S. and, even if it does exist to some extent, no one condones mob action. We should salute people in the U.S. for their openness and hospitable attitudes toward minorities despite their occasional misdeeds.

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PersianReporter PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
You paint too rosy a picture by suggesting that mob mentality does not exist in the US. Like dogs, all humans are predisposed to pack and herd mentality. Look no further than voters blindly bleeding red or blue every election cycle. Yes, we should salute those in the U.S. for their openness and hospitable attitudes toward minorities but let us not consider the election of Trump, the Iraq War, support of authoritarian regimes, bankrolling of an apartheid state, overt or covert foreign operations designed to overthrow governments, merely as 'occasional misdeeds.'

As for whether 'America is still a tolerant Arcadia for minorities' that's TBD. It's certainly less tolerant today than it was yesterday.
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Dakho Dakho (@Dakho) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
Sobering thoughts and sobering numbers which back'em as well.
49% of Americans oppose the ban while 42% support it.
Let's face it a third to 40% of Americans are solidly behind Trump and they're not just confined to mid West (although his strongest base seems to be that region) but are spread all over America.
Back in the 30's fascists were very close to winning the White House, but FDR prevailed and progressives won. 2016 election was a very different story.
Executive branch is dominated by Trumpists, the Legislative is split and the Judiciary seems to be putting up a fight for now.
The only salvation might be persistent mass mobilizations with specific aims for the local level and local designated political action.
Act local and think global.
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varjavand varjavand (@varjavand) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
Democracy is like a competitive market system. It works best if it remains untampered and is left to its own devices. Occasionally, the system may produce an outcome that may not be acceptable to many of us who become disappointed or even outraged by it. Just like a competitive market, a democratic system has its own built-in self-correcting mechanisms that kick in and correct itself, thus restoring its normal balance. That may not happen quickly. All we need to do is wait.
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PersianReporter PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) replied to varjavand (@varjavand) Pinned comment
Sounds reasonable but I'm well past my prime and still waiting. Where can I experience such a democratic system?
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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
Juvus was better user ID than Persian reporter.
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Parsa Parsa (@Parsa) Pinned comment
Historically America has stood for what is right and good. However, the battles for noble causes nowhere else have been fought harder than in its own soil.

Trump has proved that in a modern democracy, such as U.S. there is no guarantee of anything. And the courts have contradicted him on his executive order to ban the seven nations from entering the United States. So there is hope. The rule of law can prevail. However, Iranians were the least deserving of this ban, considering their contributions to their adopted country. So there you go minorities can end up being humiliated under the pretext of ‘terrorism’ and ‘radicalism’ even without sufficient evidence.

Nevertheless IRI is in no position to criticize America. Can you imagine a court order in Iran to put an injunction to what Ali Hosseini Khamenei has decreed?

Iran is not a nation as yet. This can be easily explained by comparing Iran to Spain, Italy or Germany and how they followed their path to nationhood and Iran has been stuck.

Democracy is never the end to injustices of this world but a system of government to ensure something can be done about it.
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PersianReporter PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) replied to Parsa (@Parsa) Pinned comment
It's certainly heartening that the rule of law usually prevails in the US. We love laws here. In fact, we love passing/enforcing so many laws, & the inevitable litigation that comes w/ them, that we have a legal bubble thanks to a glut of 450,000+ attorneys. But what happens when Trump appoints not one, but two or maybe three justices? What sorts of laws will the US be enforcing then?

As for the IRI, their entire existence is built on criticizing the US. They're stuck in a Cold War mentality that they can't win or even evolve from. It's like watching a terrible sitcom that keeps getting renewed year after year, after year, after...everybody is getting older but the shit show keeps rolling.

2017 Cast
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ChamoshChamoshvnd ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
This is a shameless commercial and advocacy for Trump's racist, reactionary exclusionary politics.
Fortunately the courts in the US have nipped it in the bud.
And besides Trump will be the only US prez who will serve only for two years, or even less.

Trump’s two-year presidency
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-two-year-presidency/2017/02/10/32c2e4ce-efd9-11e6-9973-c5efb7ccfb0d_story.html?utm_term=.613b5c4777d3
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ChamoshChamoshvnd ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) Pinned comment
Not sure why but I keep remembering this song!

Everybody was kung-fu fighting


They were funky China men from funky Chinatown
They were chopping them up and they were chopping them down
It's an ancient Chinese art and everybody knew their part
From a feint into a slip, and kicking from the hip


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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
There was a Norooz ceremony in white house, where Michelle Obama was referring to some Iranians by their first names such as .... Kambiz .... Kamran....
I don't know Kambiz... Kamran personally, but I have an idea who they were and what they wanted in White House.
Good news is the link between ruling criminal mullahs and White House is disrupted by new president in White house, as i was expecting. No link anymore.
Criminal mullahs lobby in Washington D.C was trying hard to keep uneducated Mullahs on power while they were trying to open relationship between Iran and U.S as it was during shah days. It was a Useless efforts because Mullahs mindset doesn't flow with modern world. They are propagating idea of Medieval which is in sharp contrast with modern world. I have already mentioned several times that Mullahs lobby were wasting their time. Mullahs have got to go. No way around it. Once Mullahs get overthrown, the happiness returns to Iran. Trump decision is first step. No negotiation with a bunch of thieves and Islamic criminal gang who occupied Iran's government and parliament. No flirting, as it was during Obama's administration. Iranians should realize that source of their suffering is criminal Mullahs, NOT American president.
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PersianReporter PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
Sooo you're saying that every eye-rain-ian 'murican that has visited the White House is part of your so called criminal lobby? If so pls just go ahead and admit that you'd love for Furor Trump to bomb the shit out of Tehran like Bush did Baghdad and have tens of thousands, maybe 100k plus people die across the country and region. Let me guess, you live in the UK or US? How convenient.

I'm sure that your invite to the White House is in the mail. Talk about being willing to cut your nose to spite your face.
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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
NO... No.... not at all.
you misinterpreted my comment. No war, NO bombing.... Criminal mullahs lobby has nothing to do with U.S or any western countries. Their paid masters are against anything that west offer to humanity and civilization, so they have to stick with it.
The link between criminal mullahs and White house interrupted after Trump took the office. That is the good one. What is wrong with that ?
Who said about bombing or war. ? That is your idea, NOT mine. Criminal mullahs looking for war in the M.E and around the world. Do you know they blow up Jewish cultural center in Argentine ? The name of Rafsanjani and head of ministry of information is in the list of "International crime committee" I.C.C
Did you know they send thugs to Mecca during Haj ceremony to cause social turmoil which led to death of 400 pilgrimage. ?
Did you know that they cause unrest in Bahrain ?
Did you know they sending Iranians money to terrorist groups of Hamas or Hezbollah in Lebanon ?
Did you know they caused riot and war in Yemen by supporting Hotti group in that country ?
Did you know they're sending Islamic thugs to Tunisia and Algeria to impose Shiism on those countries ?
Did you know.......
Apparently you didn't know. Mullahs gotta go.
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ChamoshChamoshvnd ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
Criminal monarchist cult has been in favor of sanctions, military invasion and bombing of Iran since 1979.
Criminal monarchist cult has asked the administrations of Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama and now Trump to go along with their wet dreams.
To no avail.
Did you know that monarchy in Iran was the incubator of Islamic Republic of Hell?
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PersianReporter PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
Thanks for clarifying but what's your solution? Repeating "Mullahs gotta go" and twitching your nose won't make it come true. Trust me, I tried.
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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
There are 3 million Iranians who lives outside of Iran. Imagine they all come on streets just standing without saying a word.
There are 80 million Iranians inside Iran, imagine they all just come out on streets without saying a word.
Just coming out shows they're NOT happy with the system
There is even No need to use slogan against mullahs.
just coming out and show their oppositions.
The most cruelest regime such as Apartheid in South Africa collapsed just by showing their disagreement with minority who had power. Civil right movement in U.S was similar situation. Just coming out without violence.
Now, your next question probably is :
how can we make people to come out. ?
Very simple. Cut visa or visitation of their families to the western countries Europe and U.S. That is what Trump did.
When they're NOT happy, they will come out. Now it is time that you trust me. It works.
If everything goes fine such as Norooz ceremony in White house and Kambiz... Kamran ....There wouldn't be no need to come out.
Why should they. ? They feel comfortable outside of Iran back and forth so why they show their unhappiness ? In that scenario, Everything was going fine and smoothly in benefit of criminal mullahs.
Like I said before, cut the visa was first step. That is a right track, NOT Kambiz and... Kamran..... ....
Kambiz.... and Kamran... were NOT right track.
In those days, even Cyber basenji was saying that it seems.... "Karger bet ah deep khordeh". it means , with friendship between mullahs and Obama administration oppositions reached to dead end.
Yes, it was dead end. That direction would have led the criminal Mullahs stay in power longer.
More important, at present time, if our people come out on streets there is no support for Mullahs in white house.
Please read the article I wrote in this regard just a week ago.
Here is the article:


toptopic.com/posts/banning-muslims-from-the-united-states-40223
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PersianReporter PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
You lost me at supporting Trump's immigration ban. Do you seriously think that the majority of the 1 million Iranian Americans support the visa ban? Not only that, but the visa ban helps the IRI further demonize The Great Satan. Our communities anger at the visa ban is directed at your boy Trump and not IRI. Outside of Iran the only Iranians supporting your logic are monarchists and MEK members. Word of caution if you're going to stand outside in a day of protest. Don't hold anybody's hand, MEK members are known to set themselves on fire.
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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
"Do you seriously think that the majority of the 1 million Iranian Americans support the visa ban?"

Of course NOT. Who wants to be disconnected from his/her family ? NO one.
I am saying dissatisfaction from criminal mullahs increase as the situation for Iranians get harder and harder. With Kambiz and Kamran in White house nothing will be changed. I mentioned that the days of Mullahs' friendship with Obama administration, Cyber Basenji was saying " انگار کفگیر به ته دیگ خورده
it means Mullahs' oppositions got to "dead end street". It means oppositions could NOT do anything else. Cyber baseeji was saying oppositions are finished. Everything seemed normal and Mullahs could continue to stay on power longer and longer.
The situation will be different now . Trump is going to have to undo all the mistakes of Obama, same as Reagan had to do after Carter I think the first time a Mullahs speed boat miss around with U.S ship, Trump will tell them to sink it Obama let the Mullahs and everyone else poke the bear and he did nothing.
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PersianReporter PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
Donald Dump can't and won't touch the Iran deal. You know you're in a world of hurt when you uphold Führer Trump as your savior. The Iran deal is good for Iran, the US and the international community. The only people who should decide the fate of the country are Iranians themselves -- and not expats like you, me, Kamran, Hooman or Trump.
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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
"Good deal or bad deal" is NOT an issue here.
The point is that Obama didn't take any action as far as uprising of our people concerned in 2009. His indecisiveness led to arrest and imprisonment of thousands of Iranians. Common knowledge. His inaction reached to the point that "People who should decide the fate of the country" were shouting :
"Are you with them or with us?"
اوباما تو با اوی یا با ما

From the other hand ruling criminal mullahs were claiming :
Obama means ":he is with us".
اوباما یعنی‌ او با ماست

Now with new administration in the white house that scenario wouldn't happen again. The outcome will be different. This time when "People who should decide the fate of the country" come on streets against criminal mullahs, they would shout "Are you with Mullahs or with us"?. We know which side Trump will be No need to ask that question.

Did I make it clear ?

In Nov. 2009, in Fort Hood, Texas, Nidal Hasan shouted "Allah o Akbar"الله و اکبر while shooting his fellow service comrades. He was a follower of Anwar Al Awlaki. Anwar Al Awlaki was an "Imam".
Obama did NOT say terrorism. He called it "Work place violence". The world laughed at him.

With new administration in white house this scenario wouldn't happen again.
Did I make myself clear ?
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ChamoshChamoshvnd ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
Incoherent criminal monarchist gibberish, once again.
How did exactly Reagan hurt mullahs? By Iran-Contra gate and giving arms to them? Or through October Surprise, making deals with mullahs about American hostages in Tehran?
No one helped mullahs more than Reagan
But in the demented, degenerated world of criminal monarchists it's all about US presidents and zero about Iranian people. It's all about Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Obama, Trump,...and not a word about how we Iranians will decide our own fate and not a bunch of foreign politicians.
And now the criminal monarchist cult is salivating over Trump, not knowing that Trump's presidency will be the shortest in the US history and he'll be impeached before he could say sanctions.
Is anyone surprised why in Iran donkeys, monkeys and dogs are more respected than the criminal monarchist cult?

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ChamoshChamoshvnd ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
Criminal monarchist cult has a historical predilection towards all fascist politics and those who are committed to torture and other types of crimes against humanity. So when Trump says he approves of torture they hear echos of their clown 'king' and all those SAVAK torturers, which they dearly miss.
Basically criminal monarchist cult hate Iranian people as much as mullahs hate us.
And let's not forget how monarchy was the incubator of Islamic Republic of Hell.
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Siavash Siavash (@Siavash) replied to PersianReporter (@PersianReporter) Pinned comment
BEWARE OF CYBER BASENJI.
THEY COME IN DIFFERENT FORMS... COMMUNIST... NATIONALIST....
THEIR MAIN GOAL IS TO KEEP MULLAH IN POWER BY BASHING MULLAH'S OPPOSITIONS.
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ChamoshChamoshvnd ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) replied to Siavash (@Siavash) Pinned comment
Beware that criminal monarchist cult in every major aspect and attribution is exact same of their Hezbollahi cousins.
Criminal monarchist cult has a cult of personality just like their Hezi cousins.
Criminal monarchist cult advocates torturing of opposition and committing Crimes Against Humanity, just like their Hezi cousins.
And criminal monarchist cult has a blood lust just like their Hezi cousins.
A curse on both of them.

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Mostofi Mostofi (@Mostofi) replied to ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) Pinned comment
I don't view monarchists as a cult. They're also pretty harmless these days, especially when compared to self-immolating MEK members. Monarchists are however on the wrong side of history and I agree with you that they're responsible for the Islamic Republic of Hell.
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ChamoshChamoshvnd ChamoshChamoshvnd (@ChamoshChamoshvnd) replied to Mostofi (@Mostofi) Pinned comment
Dear Mostofi we're in agreeance of monarchists' irrelevancy and uselessness.
They also have all the attributes and characteristics of a cult, such as strict adherence to a cult of personality, elevating a whore-mongering murderer like their clown 'king' to a demi-god.
They're adamantly anti-democratic and can't even tolerate the liberal pretensions of their clown 'prince.'
And they have an obsession with extreme violence and imposing their politics through barbarity and savagery.
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